So sorry to hear about your friend. It is really tough to fail and it's sad to think that he felt there was no way out. We often get so caught up in what people think of us and don't realize that much is out of our control.
I hope and pray that his wife and kids will work through this and that they don't have to take on any of his financial and emotional burdens that he left behind.
GeekMommy
· 1 year ago
I was wondering, when I read his obit this morning through your twitter link if it might be a case like this. He was awfully young and in a field that is incredibly hard-hit just now.
I think one of the best things that ever happened to me growing up was the number of times I had to go through abject failures and horrible losses as a younger person - they taught me that there is NOTHING short of death that can ever really stop me. But I know so many other people who didn't hit their crises and failures until so late in their lives that they saw no way out other than that solution. Including my closest and dearest cousin.
May he rest in peace knowing that we all make mistakes and we all fail and that his memory will live on in the hearts of those who loved him not as "that guy who couldn't find the solution at the end there" but as the sum total of the REST of his life - which was obviously one of love, caring, and giving.
Very nice tribute to your friend. My sympathies go to his family and friends.
Todd Van Hoosear
· 1 year ago
Francine, so sorry to hear the news. My thoughts are with you, his friends and family. Though I didn't know him, I can only imagine the disappointment, stress and pressure he must have felt.
Pride can get the better of even the best people. Pride is a bigger killer than many of the worst diseases. We learn, grow and yes, survive, by learning from, and living through, even our worst mistakes.
Scott had a family, friends and colleagues who he must have felt he couldn't face anymore. He didn't know what I hope others do--that humans have an incredible reserve of compassion and are capable of forgiving even the worst of transgressions.
Yes, we're also capable of great anger and hatred, and many people he may have hurt may not have forgiven him--but I don't think any of them would wish him to end his life.
If you know somebody who's hurting, connect with them, listen to them, and show compassion to them. If you can't, try to help them find someone who can.
If you're in pain yourself, don't try to bear all the weight by yourself. You were given friends and family to help you. Share your heart with others. Some won't be able to bear the weight, but many can, and would do so willingly.
Don't let pride kill you. There are always second chances in life, but death offers no such opportunity.
Francine hardaway
· 1 year ago
Thanks everyone. All of you are from the social media culture, which definitely understands this.So sad the worlds don't collide more often.
Leslie Poston
· 1 year ago
I saw this today, but did not realize he was connected to someone who was connected, tangentially, to me. I hope his family will be able to weather his loss.
@geechee_girl
Oza Meilleur
· 1 year ago
Bonjour Francine,
Still thinking of you...and Scott's family. Sending lots of love your way.
Go for the Light, Scott :-)
Big hugs always, Mudd a.k.a. Oza xoxo
Nick O'Neill
· 1 year ago
I am so sorry to hear this. My thoughts are with you and everyone he touched.
Tim Siedell
· 1 year ago
Heartbreaking. Just heartbreaking. My heart goes out to the family.
Elisa Camahort Page
· 1 year ago
Horrible, horrible. I'm so sorry.
Francine hardaway
· 1 year ago
Such wonderful comments and support from my social media friends. Thank you so much. I'm just really wigged out by this, and I'm not alone. A couple of other friends of mine feel the same.
Connie Reece
· 1 year ago
Francine, I'm so sorry for you loss and so sorry that Scott did not see any way out. I agree with what Todd said about the capacity to understand; surely not even people who lost money would wish this on him or his family. Your comparison of the different cultures between Silicon Valley, where startups fail all the time, and Phoenix was enlightening. Peace and comfort to you and all those who loved and will miss Scott.
vcstello
· 1 year ago
I worked as a temp receptionist for him a few years back. Granted it only lasted a few months...he was a very nice guy. It is a grave loss for his family, friends and for our community. Hopefully he is at peace now and his family is taken care of. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who know him.
karen spector
· 1 year ago
I had known Scott Coles from his birth in Illinois to Lois and Chuck. I even baby sat for him and his siblings before they moved to Arizona. I ran into him a few years ago and saw what a wonderful man he had become. It was at his son's bar mitzvah at the Arizona Botanical Center. I will remember his smile and how proud he was of his wonderful family. He is and will always be a shining successful star.
thomas
· 1 year ago
i am curious how you come to know he killed himself,although people of 48 years rarely die it does happen!
This is a disservice to a good man who is not here to defend himself. wait for results of autopsy before you make such statements.
Francine hardaway
· 1 year ago
I have been informed by credible sources and also a press release by bank examiners appeared with this information in it.
thomas
· 1 year ago
francine where can the press release be found online
thomas
· 1 year ago
Coles was found deceased in his residence, said Andy Hill, Phoenix police spokesman.
The cause and manner of death will be determined by the medical examiner, Hill said. There are no obvious signs of foul play, Hill said
cant find that press release from bank examiners? I thought not
accolyte
· 1 year ago
Hi Francine as thomas requested we are all curious to see a link for the press release you had eluded to, it would be nice if you can substantiate your statements before you put them in the blogoshphere. We are all waiting for your response and to the link (if there is one)
Francine, what a way to honour "friend", Scott Coles: your commentary is pretty close to assasinating his charecter with a lots of speculations and guessing on your part.
Francine hardaway
· 1 year ago
I certainly wasn't meaning to assassinate his character. I loved him, and had several conversations with him lately about how he was feeling and offered to help him many times. I felt a great deal of empathy with him, because I went through the real estate decline in the 80s with another Arizona real estate icon who nearly did the same thing. It's the most sensitive and caring people who sometimes feel too much pain from these real estate downturns.
Scott was a man who wanted to find solutions, and who took his personal responsibility for investors very seriously. If that's not what came across in my piece, I'm sorry.
I also know of other personal problems, but choose not to write about them.
Not at all a character assassination. Please read it as a way for one grieving person, who happens to write, to express her love.
Joseph Lee
· 1 year ago
He thought you were a "Nebbish" and your diatribe confirms his opinion. How Dare You who has accomplished nothing but words denigrate someone that has accomplished so much and given so much to so many? No one is interested in your idiotic guesses, and it is too bad he is not here to refute that he would ever discuss anything with you.
I'm not saying - too many hate
· 1 year ago
Wow. Francine, I don't know anybody involved, but it was clear that your post was a tenderhearted expression. The article you linked to says "Coles died after an apparent suicide, ..." Gee... Where could you possibly have gotten the idea that he committed suicide? And now these quite hostile people are calling you names on behalf of your friend, who isn't here to clear things up? I've never seen anything like that. My sympathies on your loss.
GeekMommy
· 1 year ago
So, let me get this straight - Francine is grieving for the loss of her friend, and trying to understand the reasons for his untimely loss - and some folks who aren't even brave enough to put real contact information come here and attack her for that?
Yeah, way to make the loss of an obviously good guy even worse for someone.
Before you come and post something rude? Think twice. You aren't honoring the memory of Mr. Coles - may he rest in peace.
Trula
· 1 year ago
Francine. I understand that you meant well and loved your friend. I do think however it is too soon, much too soon, for anyone to publicly speculate on the reasons for why your friend chose to end his life (if indeed he did this, which hasn't been confirmed). He has not even been buried yet...when someone's body has not been interred/cremated/memorialized over yet it does seem kind of ghoulish to talk about them in this way, to imply what they could have or should have done.
I would also like to gently suggest that you consider this man's children...one day they will be older and would like to read good things about their dad, written by people who knew their dad. You can choose to write about the good things you valued in your friend, without all the other stuff. His wife, his kids, they know more than anyone that he could have chosen to do different (if indeed he did end his own life), they really are not served by this post which is condemning.
I have known two people who died by apparent suicide, one a young acquaintance and the other a close friend. In both cases suicide was later ruled out by autopsy. In both cases right away people posted all over the internet suicide as cause of death. I understand that you put 'apparently' but that is just like calling someone an 'alleged' rapist. This is not some newspaper story about someone you don't know. It's a personal blog post about someone you say was a close friend. Be kind, to your friend. Respect his memory and his family.
and many hugs to you, for your grief.
/pd
· 1 year ago
Folks take a chill pill !! Whether the verbiage is "alleged", "apparent " or "idiotic guesses" - does that really matter ?
A Person has died, they leave behind loved ones. Empathize rather then criticize.
The Mortgage Crisis is effecting everyone, slowly or later it will come close to you. This is happening and it will take its toll one way or the other. Mentally, physically and financially. Infighting and bad vibes to one another will not take this crisis away or the fact that people are directly or indirectly deeply effected.
The American Dream had become a nightmare and this is just the tip of the iceberg. The emotional toll will be high , very high. Remember, all you have is one another to lean on. Respect that fact and thereby respecting yourself !!
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I hope and pray that his wife and kids will work through this and that they don't have to take on any of his financial and emotional burdens that he left behind.
I think one of the best things that ever happened to me growing up was the number of times I had to go through abject failures and horrible losses as a younger person - they taught me that there is NOTHING short of death that can ever really stop me.
But I know so many other people who didn't hit their crises and failures until so late in their lives that they saw no way out other than that solution. Including my closest and dearest cousin.
May he rest in peace knowing that we all make mistakes and we all fail and that his memory will live on in the hearts of those who loved him not as "that guy who couldn't find the solution at the end there" but as the sum total of the REST of his life - which was obviously one of love, caring, and giving.
Very nice tribute to your friend.
My sympathies go to his family and friends.
Pride can get the better of even the best people. Pride is a bigger killer than many of the worst diseases. We learn, grow and yes, survive, by learning from, and living through, even our worst mistakes.
Scott had a family, friends and colleagues who he must have felt he couldn't face anymore. He didn't know what I hope others do--that humans have an incredible reserve of compassion and are capable of forgiving even the worst of transgressions.
Yes, we're also capable of great anger and hatred, and many people he may have hurt may not have forgiven him--but I don't think any of them would wish him to end his life.
If you know somebody who's hurting, connect with them, listen to them, and show compassion to them. If you can't, try to help them find someone who can.
If you're in pain yourself, don't try to bear all the weight by yourself. You were given friends and family to help you. Share your heart with others. Some won't be able to bear the weight, but many can, and would do so willingly.
Don't let pride kill you. There are always second chances in life, but death offers no such opportunity.
@geechee_girl
Still thinking of you...and Scott's family. Sending lots of love your way.
Go for the Light, Scott :-)
Big hugs always,
Mudd a.k.a. Oza
xoxo
This is a disservice to a good man who is not here to defend himself. wait for results of autopsy before you make such statements.
The cause and manner of death will be determined by the medical examiner, Hill said. There are no obvious signs of foul play, Hill said
cant find that press release from bank examiners?
I thought not
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=49344&cat=1
Scott was a man who wanted to find solutions, and who took his personal responsibility for investors very seriously. If that's not what came across in my piece, I'm sorry.
I also know of other personal problems, but choose not to write about them.
Not at all a character assassination. Please read it as a way for one grieving person, who happens to write, to express her love.
No one is interested in your idiotic guesses, and it is too bad he is not here to refute that he would ever discuss anything with you.
The article you linked to says "Coles died after an apparent suicide, ..." Gee... Where could you possibly have gotten the idea that he committed suicide?
And now these quite hostile people are calling you names on behalf of your friend, who isn't here to clear things up? I've never seen anything like that.
My sympathies on your loss.
Yeah, way to make the loss of an obviously good guy even worse for someone.
Before you come and post something rude? Think twice. You aren't honoring the memory of Mr. Coles - may he rest in peace.
I would also like to gently suggest that you consider this man's children...one day they will be older and would like to read good things about their dad, written by people who knew their dad. You can choose to write about the good things you valued in your friend, without all the other stuff. His wife, his kids, they know more than anyone that he could have chosen to do different (if indeed he did end his own life), they really are not served by this post which is condemning.
I have known two people who died by apparent suicide, one a young acquaintance and the other a close friend. In both cases suicide was later ruled out by autopsy. In both cases right away people posted all over the internet suicide as cause of death. I understand that you put 'apparently' but that is just like calling someone an 'alleged' rapist. This is not some newspaper story about someone you don't know. It's a personal blog post about someone you say was a close friend. Be kind, to your friend. Respect his memory and his family.
and many hugs to you, for your grief.
A Person has died, they leave behind loved ones. Empathize rather then criticize.
The Mortgage Crisis is effecting everyone, slowly or later it will come close to you. This is happening and it will take its toll one way or the other. Mentally, physically and financially. Infighting and bad vibes to one another will not take this crisis away or the fact that people are directly or indirectly deeply effected.
The American Dream had become a nightmare and this is just the tip of the iceberg. The emotional toll will be high , very high.
Remember, all you have is one another to lean on. Respect that fact and thereby respecting yourself !!